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On a Design Partner call a few weeks ago, an (unnamed) IBM engineer made the comment "I'm not getting the sense that anyone thinks Firefox is just a flat out better browser than IE."

Me (interrupting): "whoa.  Let's fix that.  Firefox. is. a. better. browser. than. IE.  In fact, everything is a better browser than IE."

There should now never be a question why.

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1 - yo mamma is a better browser than IE!

Posted by Devin Olson At 08:39:40 AM On 08/06/2009 |


2 - Considering what I do for a living, I regularly use MSIE, Firefox, Chrome, Netscape (yes, I know Netscape is "dead" -people still use it), and Safari.

My biggest problem with Firefox is that XPages don't play well with the latest (3.5) release. I think this is because IBM is focusing development effort on MSIE.


My biggest problem with MSIE is how bad it sucks at pretty much everything. Except promoting bing. Which also sucks. So I guess the only thing MSIE is good at is promoting a shitty "decision engine".

Of course, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong. (Not very likely)


Posted by Devin Olson At 08:47:13 AM On 08/06/2009 |


3 - Can I suggest you take a look at { Link } and perhaps introduce it to the yellowverse!

Posted by Alan Bell At 09:31:25 AM On 08/06/2009 |


4 - I couldn't agree more. I hated the redesign of IE7 that splits controls on each side of the address bar, and IE8 is the slowest loading browser I've used in about a decade.

I've been using Lunascape { Link } (no, it's not a spam link despite the .tv domain) to do website testing. It's a hybrid browser that uses the Webkit, Gecko and Trident browsing engines simultaneously. One click and you can switch the browsing engine. Unfortunately it only uses one version of each, but it's still easier than loading up three separate browsers.

Posted by Charles Robinson At 09:49:50 AM On 08/06/2009 |


5 - Devin, are you talking about panel refresh in FF3.5? That's fixed in 8.5.1....

Also for the love of God support CSS3!!! I have given up on making rounded corners in IE, I tell people if they want the site to look god use FF3 or 3.5, or Safari 4.

I am astounded in the abilities of webkit and CSS3 and HTML5!Emoticon

Posted by Mark Hughes At 10:14:59 AM On 08/06/2009 |


6 - "I have given up on making rounded corners in IE"

100% agreed. Our Designers have specific instructions that they aren't allowed to implement rounded corners in any way except via CSS, even if that excludes some browsers.

Posted by Nathan T. Freeman At 10:32:13 AM On 08/06/2009 |


7 - @2/@5 - reportedly, it's also fixed in 8.5 FP1... I believe it was a Dojo issue (that framework has only supported FF3.5 for a couple weeks), not anything specific to XPages. Could be wrong, though.

Posted by Tim Tripcony At 10:47:48 AM On 08/06/2009 |


8 - We'd love to provide support for FF only...but often FF support for iNotes lags after a point release.

Posted by Marie Scott At 11:38:58 AM On 08/06/2009 |


9 - It wasn't the case back in the IE 6/FF 2.0 days, became arguable in the IE 7/FF 3.0 days, and definitely *is* true today with IE 8/FF 3.5.

It did take FF supporting the innerhtml property (an MS invention) to really take off, and yes, CSS still sucks in some ways, but IE is just getting left behind.

Posted by Erik Brooks At 12:09:11 PM On 08/06/2009 |


10 - @9 - Somebody didn't read the ALT text. Emoticon

Posted by Nathan T. Freeman At 02:07:56 PM On 08/06/2009 |


11 - LMAO!!!!! Best ALT text ever.

Posted by Erik Brooks At 02:43:46 PM On 08/06/2009 |


12 - I'm finding that FF 3.5 sucks resources badly and I'm even thinking of going back to FF 3.x. The other day it was up to about 350M of RAM used and cpu and disk crunching away.

Chris

Posted by Chris Reckling At 12:01:25 PM On 08/22/2009 |


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